Girl Game: Breast Implants Good Or Bad?

Reader:  Just a quick question …. Does Jennifer have implants? I have started working out and I know i will be ”perker” because of that. I love my breasts as is but I am 32 and wondering if a couple years down the road if a boob job is something a woman should consider to keep her number up? I know I am sexy my SO loves my body and says he wouldn’t want me to have it done but I also know he is a breast man. I am a nice B cup right now but wouldn’t a nice full C cup or even a nice D cup up my number? He has cheated in the past with a fuller chested woman and since finding your post and making personal changes to up my game he is bending over backwards for me and doing things for me he has never done. I take as much blame as him for his affair because I wasn’t keeping up my end i.e. Depressed, not taking care of myself, not believing in my own worth, not meeting all his needs and not making my needs important … So i feel like he is definitely more into me now but i wanna keep it that way… So are implants a way to up a females game?

Athol:  There’s so many different things happening here…

(1)  Does Jennifer have implants?

Jennifer does not have implants. We’ve had two scary mammogram results and associated biopsies and just no way we’d even consider putting in implants for fear of cancer. The biopsy pain and recovery was bad enough. Benign results both times thankfully.

(2)  …my SO loves my body and says he wouldn’t want me to have it done…

Translation from Manspeak into plain English - he doesn’t want you to get it done.

(3)  He has cheated in the past with a fuller chested woman.

This means nothing. He cheated with an available woman. If a small breasted woman made herself available to him he’d likely have sex with her too. It’s not about you. Being available makes girls far more likely to ride his cock than girls that are not available.

(4)  I take as much blame as him for his affair because I wasn’t keeping up my end i.e. Depressed, not taking care of myself, not believing in my own worth, not meeting all his needs and not making my needs important.

Well done. It’s fairly rare that the cheated on partner can see their part of creating the situation. I have some hope for you. You’re getting a free pass on me calling you Batshit Crazy at the end of this post for this display of honesty and introspection.

(5)  I am a nice B cup right now but wouldn’t a nice full C cup or even a nice D cup up my number?  So are implants a way to up a females game?

 The short answer is unless you can point to a serious defect to be corrected, I’d not advise it. If you have good B’s, keep them.

The longer answer…

Should the terrible happen and Jennifer gets breast cancer and mastectomies, I would think we would both want breast reconstruction to restore as much as possible of Jennifer’s appearance. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that move. The purpose being to correct a serious defect.

I spent some time today looking at breast implant before and after photos on plastic surgery websites. Hey it’s my job to research as many photos of breasts as possible and I’m serious about my work. Anyway… about half the photos were of reasonably nice A’s and B’s turning into C’s and D’s. But the other half of the “before” photos were of breasts that were rated “Owie”, “OMG what is that?” and “Dammmmnnnnnnn.”  So in all fairness, I have to say that for women with badly misshapen breasts, you will definitely get a Sex Rank boost if you have work done. There’s really not much question about that.

However if you have basically fine breasts and pump up the volume, it’s harder to say. Underneath a tight sweater, yeah your Sex Rank will improve. You’ll look hotter. Sorry ladies, just being honest. Once you have the clothes off though, it’s a little more of a question. If you have obvious scars, you’ll just have a damaged rack and lose Sex Rank. If the work was excellent and you didn’t go overboard, you’ll still have an increase in Sex Rank.

Once you’re doing the sexy naked time though it’s a mixed bag at best. You may have a loss of sensation in your breasts, so that’s going to reduce your sexual response and that’s bad for Sex Rank. He may just find them fake and unnatural feeling and that will kill his interest.

But….

The most important reason not to get breast implants is that it flags you as the type of girl that gets breast implants.

“In 2008, the longitudinal study Excess Mortality from Suicide and other External Causes of Death Among Women with Cosmetic Breast Implants (2007), reported that women who sought breast implants are almost 3.0 times as likely to commit suicide as are women who have not sought breast implants. Compared to the standard suicide-rate for women of the general populace, the suicide-rate for women with augmented breasts remained constant until 10-years post-implantation, yet, it increased to 4.5 times greater at the 11-year mark, and so remained until the 19-year mark, when it increased to 6.0 times greater at 20-years post-implantation. Moreover, additional to the suicide-risk, women with breast implants also faced a trebled death-risk from alcoholism and the abuse of prescription and recreational drugs.[23][24] Although seven (7) studies have statistically connected a woman’s breast augmentation to a greater suicide-rate, the research indicates that breast augmentation surgery does not increase the death rate; and that, in the first instance, it is the psychopathologically-inclined woman who is likelier to undergo a breast augmentation procedure.”   Wikipedia.

In short, surgically altering perfectly healthy breasts to try and please a guy that previously cheated on you is Batshit Crazy a little nutty…

…but then you knew that already.

Jennifer: Oh hell no.

Comments

  1. Days of Broken Arrows says:

    “He has cheated in the past with a fuller chested woman…”
    How does she know that “fuller chest” wasn’t gross or misshapen or just odd? I’ve noticed the bigger they get, the more chance for weirdness. Nice B’s beat out strange D’s everytime.

  2. I’ve seen some really bad implant jobs. So bad that it is obvious they are implants while the woman still has her clothes on.

    As far as size goes, I prefer my women built for speed and my motorcycles built for comfort. I really do have a strong preference for A-cups and consider anything over a B to be too much of a good thing. Of course, given how overweight women have become these days, it’s rare to find any without the larger sized breasts.

  3. Having a boob job has flitted accross my mind also. I was a nice B cup, but after 2 kids, they are now a saggy B cup and I don’t feel they are very attractive. Hubby doesn’t complain, but he is aware they are not as good as they were. I looked briefly into surgery but I’m not keen on something foreign staying in my body or the side effects etc.
    Fast forward a google search on the pill and other things increasing breast size etc and I stumbled accross this site:
    http://naturalremedysite.blogspot.com.au/2007/10/natural-breast-enlargement-with.html
    I am trying this now – I’ve only been doing it for a week, so no results yet. There are also companies that produce ‘breast enlargement pills’ you could look into (just google it). I hope this works for me, but even if it doesn’t, what it tells me is there are other options aside from surgery that should be explored first.

  4. oops – I beg your pardon Athol I should have asked permission before posting that link. My appologies. Please remove it if you don’t want it there.
    For the Reader – just google ‘natural breast enlargement with Fenugreek’ and you’ll find it.

  5. I don’t know if I agree with your assement. After around 10 years of marriage, and 3+ children, all breast fed, the wif’es breast are not the same as when we were married (obviously). While I logically understand that, and still find her attractive, I think getting some type of surgery done would be a good thing. Maybe a lift instead of full “boob job”. I like perky breasts…or should I accept the reality of the situation?

  6. pdwalker says:

    If you have nice B’s, keep ‘em.

    One of the joys of growing older is the effect of gravity on one’s body. Aside from all the bad reasons for getting implants, add to the fact that those implants will help drag your nipples down to your knees.

    Stay natural. Your husband will approve.

  7. Some of the best advice for women I’ve heard along these lines is this: if she is thinking about getting her breasts augmented, she should think about getting her teeth fixed instead, or at least first. Getting crooked or broken teeth fixed will improve the way she looks, sometimes even the way she smells.

  8. Greenblue says:

    What I’d like to know is how does a husband convince his insecure wife that he absolute loves her perky A’s on her skinny frame. She can’t accept the fact that I prefer natural breast on a skinny girl, than big ones on an overweight one, or fake ones on a skinny one.

    Ladies, if your nipples point to the sky, it just looks weird ok…

  9. Metasteve says:

    I ***HATE*** fake titties.

    Don’t like they way they feel and don’t like the way they look and don’t like what they say about the nature of the girl that got them.

    I agree with Athol…if they are relatively normal, leave ‘em alone.

  10. Anonymous says:

    It’s pretty maddening to hear husbands say, “Gee, I wish my wife still had perky breasts, like the ones she had before she bore our three kids and gave them a great start in life by breastfeeding them. Now I think she should have surgery so her breasts can be perky again.” Yeah, well, she probably wishes you had the rock-hard abs and iron-hard cock that you had at 22. But, you know, things change as you get older.

  11. Ladies, before you consider surgery, work on losing weight (if you’re overweight) and getting in good shape. Work on your ab and back muscles so that you have great posture – some of the “sagging” you see may actually be bad posture. You will always look and feel better if you are eating well, maintaining a healthy weight, and exercising regularly. And husbands, if your wife is a good wife and mother who breastfed your children, please don’t make her feel like she is “lacking” because she doesn’t look exactly like she did when you married her. Get in shape together so that you both feel and look your best.

  12. mmaier2112 says:

    “The most important reason not to get breast implants is that it flags you as the type of girl that gets breast implants.”

    No joke! One of our office hotties was a gorgeous, petite thing. If I’d known she was going to get a boob job before she did it, I would have vehemently told her to forget it. She would have been sexy with A—- cups, and I’m pretty sure they were at least a B.

    The end results didn’t even look like an improvement, though I never saw them “in the flesh”. Dammit.

  13. AnonymousPenguin says:

    I’ve looked into the reduction/perkifying surgery myself. I looked… and then I shuddered, and then I stopped looking. It was the part where they cut your nipple off and relocate it… yeah, I was done after that.

    I’m fond of those nerve endings, thank you.

    (PS – breasts are stuff under skin. There is muscle underneath the breasts, but it’s the same flat pectoral muscle that men have. You can get a very slight lift by working out/improving posture, but if the issue is stretched skin – and after nursing babies, that’s what it is – nothing is going to change that other than a surgeon. I have both quite a lot of pectoral muscle for a woman and a lot of breast tissue. More muscle doesn’t do a thing for me – in fact it makes it a bit more obvious.)

  14. I don’t have a problem with post-pregnancy breast lifts, but full-on implants? I tend to agree with Athol.. the only people I know who have gotten them are also pretty psychologically broken as well.

  15. Bah, get fitted for a good bra instead. Big boobs are a PITA (says the girl with natural semi-big ones). Clothes don’t hang right; you have to go up two sizes to get blouses buttoned. Don’t do it. If you want to feel bigger, measure yourself according to this standard:http://www.thinandcurvy.com/2010/10/how-to-measure-your-bra-size-correct.html
    Your band size will probably decrease and your cup size will go up two or three. There you go: instant, painless boob job. If you’re a full B now, you’re probably really a C or D and your band is just too big.

    Whatever you do, don’t get implants. Your SO will respect you a LOT less if you do. It comes off as needy and desperate if you’re willing to cut into your body to keep him. Implants are for cancer survivors and D-list actresses.

  16. Anony Mouse says:

    Does that advice go for lifts too? I’ve been contemplating one after we’re done with the kids, but now I’m not so sure….

  17. Don’t do *anything* that reduces sensitivity.

  18. Joe Commenter says:

    How many men have actually felt an augmented breast? Is this really that common?

    The A#1 best way to be hotter for your husband? Sex him up on a regular basis. Don’t wait for him to ask you. You do the initiation. I cannot understand how women are confused about this. If you are taking care of your husband on a daily basis, there is almost zero chance that he will cheat on you. He will have nothing left in the tank for the other woman.

    2nd best way to keep hubby interested. Loose the fat and get in shape.

  19. anonymous says:

    Man do I love men! Yall are awesome! Your comments brought a huge smile to my face! Athol you rock! I did a little research myself after Athol answered my question and the pics I seen on some ladies made me realise how lucky I am to be carrying my beauties around lol! They might not be as big as some with implants or as perfect but they are fabulous as is and since I have been working out I know they will only get better! Thanks Athol and Jennifer if only I had found this blog 2 years ago maybe he wouldn’t have cheated but its bittersweet because his cheating made me wake up and do research because I knew I didn’t want to let him go without a fight and not the crazy physical trash his car stalker mode but the what the hell can I do to keep him and get his interest back because he really is a great man and then I found this blessed site! I am more alive now than I ever would have been if he hadn’t … Sad but true. So true also about finding your correct size bra lol I’m actually a C! Now I am walking around with an even bigger smile on my face! Love this site I read it almost daily haven’t bought a book yet but I definitly will you made my day Athol. Keep the good stuff coming! I know the men need you but as a woman I can truely say this blog has changed the way I look at love. We grow up with the fairy tales and have no idea how to really be a woman and how to treat a man. We just think it should be happily ever after because we love him thank goodness its not that way cause that is so very boring!!!

  20. anonymous says:

    Man do I love men! Yall are awesome! Your comments brought a huge smile to my face! Athol you rock! I did a little research myself after Athol answered my question and the pics I seen on some ladies made me realise how lucky I am to be carrying my beauties around lol! They might not be as big as some with implants or as perfect but they are fabulous as is and since I have been working out I know they will only get better! Thanks Athol and Jennifer if only I had found this blog 2 years ago maybe he wouldn’t have cheated but its bittersweet because his cheating made me wake up and do research because I knew I didn’t want to let him go without a fight and not the crazy physical trash his car stalker mode but the what the hell can I do to keep him and get his interest back because he really is a great man and then I found this blessed site! I am more alive now than I ever would have been if he hadn’t … Sad but true. So true also about finding your correct size bra lol I’m actually a C! Now I am walking around with an even bigger smile on my face! Love this site I read it almost daily haven’t bought a book yet but I definitly will you made my day Athol. Keep the good stuff coming! I know the men need you but as a woman I can truely say this blog has changed the way I look at love. We grow up with the fairy tales and have no idea how to really be a woman and how to treat a man. We just think it should be happily ever after because we love him. Thank goodness its not that way cause that is so very boring!!!

  21. anonandon says:

    Personal question, that’s a bit tangential to this post:

    How much of a decrease in sex rank is it for a girl whose breasts fall into the ‘ohmygodbad’ category? Is a misshapen pair a huge deal breaker, or not that big of a deal?

  22. That would depend how misshapen they are. It’s rare that breasts are perfectly symetrical, but if you’re taking your clothes off and men are recoiling from you… then there’s your sign. Also without a picture, I don’t know if this is all in your head or not. :-)

  23. My wife has implants, and I agree with Athol. If you have normal breasts, having implants just to make them bigger is a bad idea.

    My wife lost half her body weight as a result of bariatric surgery. After deflating that much, her breasts looked like tube socks with tennis balls in the end. The implants were a repair, not an enhancement. It’s too soon to tell how bad the scars will look long-term. And it’s too soon to tell if she will ever regain the lost feeling in one of her nipples.

    Net result, for us, is good. But it’s a hugely painful procedure and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone who doesn’t really, really need it.

    Oh, and also remember: breast implants don’t last forever. If you have implants, you have to plan on REPLACING them in 10 to 12 years. More cost, more pain, more surgical risk. So again, unless you really need them, don’t do it.

  24. Stargate Girl says:

    After 3 kids and breastfeeding, my breasts are a bit droopier than I’d like (sans bra). We did look into a breast lift while researching tummy tuck, but the potential to lose breast/nipple sensation and not have it come back was a deal breaker. Not willing to risk it.

    If a guy is going to cheat, don’t thinking changing your boob size will fix anything. Ultimately, if you have healthy breasts, why mess with em?

  25. Beeping Slooty says:

    I am a woman and I have big fake boobies. I lost a bunch of weight (116 pounds). After the babies and the weight loss, there was nothing that would make my breasts look like anything other than sad, droopy pancakes. Not sexy at all. I had a breast lift with augmentation to restore fullness, a tummy tuck and lower body lift to remove redundant skin. I had it done as a staged procedure — 3 separate surgeries. I am thrilled with my result and would happily go under the knife again, knowing what I know now.

    In my case, though, I wasn’t just trying to make some lovely Bs into lovely DDDs. My breasts had gone from very full natural DD cups to a very sad 38-long. :(

  26. Only way I would recommend getting implants is if it is something you want for yourself, not for your SO.

    If you are happy with your chest then leave them as is, if you and you alone feel it is something you want then look into it.

    Doing it for someone else could lead to resentment down the road if you regret the decision or complications arise.

  27. Funny, I don’t think anyone’s mentioned the destabilizing effect on sex rank. Say wifey gets implants and it goes great, really great. She feels so good she starts dressing a little sexier, spends a little more time on hair and make up, works out a little bit more… That’s easily a two-point swing in a matter of a couple months and a whole lot of new male interest. Oh, but I’m sure you planned in advance for this, and started working out more six months ahead of the surgery, improved your wardrobe, maybe worked out a deal to get a raise at work right before the surgery and gradually intensified the alpha-beta, yes? Oh, you didn’t? You just saved up for the procedure and plan to kick back and reap the benefits of modern medical science?
    Uh oh.

  28. Interesting that women get more suicidal the longer the implants are in. I bet that leakage is not as rare as doctors tell us and that the chemicals do bad things.

  29. anonandon says:

    It’s hard. I dunno. I just started looking into this after reading your post, and it’s clear to me that I have something called ‘tuberous breast deformity’. Luckily I’m an A cup, and as such mine are relatively symmetrical, so perhaps the deformity isn’t as “OH GOD WHAT ARE THOSE?!” as women with larger breasts, or cross-eyed looking nipples.

    I wouldn’t want implants. I’m fine being an A-cup. I just wish that they weren’t shaped quite so much like tube socks. Having looked into different surgical procedures, however, I’ve determined that the risk to my ability to breast feed is too high to consider a mastopexy or a lift until after my child-rearing days are over. Considering that I’ve seen far more hideous jugs on Google today (thank you, internet), I guess I’ll just have to hope that any future boyfriends of mine will respect my decision to put my future children first. And hey, then he can look forward to me having a knockout pair when I hit my late thirties ;)

    To answer your question, I’ve never had a boyfriend recoil the first time I took my shirt off. That said, I’ve got fuller hips with a nice butt, so I guess the guys who are attracted to me think that my assets (no pun intended) make up for TubeSockBoob(TM). And maybe women like me sometimes forget that it’s not the size (or even the shape) that matters, but the enthusiasm and simple pleasure that we bring to the table.

    Thanks for this post, Athol. I’m a regular reader here, and love your stuff. This one in particular has helped me feel better about the bitties that fill out my bra. :)

  30. My wife got breast implants about five years ago when she was 40. She went from a small perky B to a DD’s. It was not my idea. I was open to it but left it completely up to her. She said it was something she had been interested in doing for a long time. She debated internally because we have two daughters and she was concerned about how they would interpret it.
    She is extremely satisfied by them, loves they way they look, and the way her clothes look.

    However, they are about half as sensitive now as they were before surgery, and the feeling will never come back. Nipple action during sex is not the same. I mean, I will do it, but it does not give the same result. Hell, my wife was able to orgasm from nipple stimulation alone before the surgery. Now, the hightened sensitivity is gone.
    Its a shame really.
    Also, be prepared for the bump in sex rank. My wife went up a whole two points. I loved it, and I thought I was prepared for it. The extra attention she got from men was immediate. I am lucky that my sex rank was higher than hers, otherwise it wouldve been a quick disaster for sure. It took about 4 years to get me to MMSL, and the boob job was the beginning of the journey, heh.

  31. Theresa says:

    “Interesting that women get more suicidal the longer the implants are in. I bet that leakage is not as rare as doctors tell us and that the chemicals do bad things.”

    I think you’re making a mistake to think the boob job is the cause of suicide/substance abuse, instead of just another symptom of low self-esteem, which is more likely to be the cause of self-destructive behavior.

    I had a lovely set of perky “B”s until I finished breast-feeding my second child, and was suddenly left with saggy, empty sacks. This lead me to a fine pair of silicone “C”s that I have been happy with for 12 years. It is hard enough to go through the hormonal shifts and stressors of a newborn, without looking in the mirror at the end and feeling less of a woman from feeding your baby. Reasonable or not, that is how it feels, and if your wife feels like less of a woman because of it, her sexual self-image will take a huge hit. Good luck getting frisky and flirty with her after that.

    Look at it this way guys…if having a baby suddenly made your cock shrink to half it’s size, if you could, wouldn’t you get that fixed? Of course you would, and who could blame you? Most men I know would then try to parlay that into an amateur porn career ;) For lots of women these days, it’s a (now affordable) way to steal back a little of what time and babies have stolen from their bodies.

    Not all boob jobs are coke-addict strippers. Of course, some still are ;)

  32. I think with this question it’s such an individualized answer. Some men don’t care about big breasts as much as their wives think they do and vice versa. It just depends. Getting a lift is scary compared to just implants because it leaves tons of scars and pretty much guarantees loss of nipple sensitivity. With implants too, there are so many ways to do it: over the muscle, under the muscle, saline, silicone, etc.

    In my case, some loss of sensitivity would be a good thing: after nursing our two kids my wife’s nipples are so sensitive now that I can only kiss them with the most gentle kisses. Having babies does *so* many things to a woman’s body…

    The future though is going to be ‘natural’ enhancement through fat cell grafting. A company called Cytori has developed a process where they take your fat (through liposuction somewhere else on your body) and divide it in half. Then they extract the stem cells from one half and mix them with the other half of the extracted stem cells and then inject the enriched half into your breasts. The stem cells build the circulatory network to support the added fat cells and since it all came from your own body there’s no chance of rejection. Voila! Completely real breast enhancement. It’s currently undergoing trials with mastectomy patients and I wouldn’t be surprised if the technique almost completely replaces implants over the next 10 years (although who knows with the medical industry). The implications of the technique for other therapies is amazing as well such as repairing heart-attack damaged heart tissue, etc.

  33. some guy says:

    Speaking as a guy – don’t do it, fake tits are the biggest turn-off ever.

  34. John Q Galt says:

    There’s an old adage in the Real Estate business – the THIRD investor to own an office building is the first one who makes money. The previous two owners lost money.

    Likewise, if Wifey starts making noises about a boob job (absent Athol’s comment about reconstruction), your first thought needs to be “Air Raid! Pearl Harbor! This is no drill!” I don’t know if anyone tracks statistics, but it would not surprise me to learn this is most women’s attempt at clawing an extra $10,000 – $15,000 from the property settlement over the fence. You won’t get to enjoy it as much as he will. There is a decent chance that “he” already exists.

    My personal experience – Cupcake and I hit a rough patch, I doubled down on beta (I have both alpha and beta characteristics – definitely a “nice” and loyal guy and I cook for her because I’ve always been a better cook than she is, but also a workaholic. Some times I get wrapped up with work and/or hobbies and spend time away from her, especially during rock climbing season. I’m physically large, have a deep voice, and make good money). I cringe at some of the things I did. She mentioned boob jobs a couple of times. I finally got to the point where I realized I didn’t want her any more, and acted like it. Women started hitting on me (or maybe I noticed), which I encouraged but I didn’t rub her face in. I realized I don’t need her permission to be a great guy and that I’d have no problems replacing her with a better model. I realized I could afford to pay her off and still have ample money for the next woman.

    I finally blew up at her harridan mother (didn’t raise my voice, but gave her The Death Look which, when given to another man, usually precipitates a fistfight). I’d swallowed it because her mother would emotionally abuse her if she was angry at me. I told Wifey her mother was dead to me.

    She sexes me on demand most of the time – which isn’t nightly but my drive has always been higher. More to the point, she uses the sweet voice on me, checks in, and acts like she wants to keep her job. I can’t honestly tell you if I love her still or if I’d turn down a proposition if it came. I don’t think I love her but I’m not ready to leave yet. Sorry about that, I’m a jerk but at least I know it. When I used to trade commodities for a living, they’d say “Scared money never wins” and I think that’s true in love as well.

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