Matt266: So @Athol_Kay talks about Shrek, Donkey Princess Fiona Plan in the book. One thing I don’t understand is he says that Jennifer gets Princess Fiona preference, fine. But then he goes on to say, if I rescue the princess I bang the princess. Isn’t this a covert contract? ie. if I do this for wife then she gives me sex.
Please set me straight, just trying to learn!
Athol: Okay… so the original Shrek-Fiona-Donkey post is here. The TL:DR version being, I’m framing myself as Shrek, and making the women in my life fall in either the Princess Fiona or Donkey categories. I willingly do a lot of nice stuff for a Princess Fiona, but we also have an intense sexual connection, and Donkeys I don’t have a sexual relationship with… and they are their own beasts of burden.
Jennifer is the only woman in my life on the Princess Fiona Plan. I’d usually make some kind of joke about her frowning on other women or something after saying something like that, but it actually felt oddly peaceful to say that. Huh.
A covert contract would be where you decided to do a whole bunch of nice stuff for a woman, and then had an unstated expectation of sexual payment for services rendered. Typically sexual payment doesn’t happen anyway and then you get mad because you did all this stuff and didn’t get paid… which isn’t fair! Meanwhile she thinks it isn’t fair that you suddenly sprung your cock into the mix like a bill collector.
What I’m doing with Shrek-Fiona-Donkey is making an overt contract. Jennifer and I both understand and agree to the arrangement. I do X and I get Y. She gives Y and she gets X. It’s a fair exchange.
A covert contract is like when you stop at a red light and some homeless guy with a bucket and sponge starts washing your windshield, then holds out his hand for money.
An overt contract is like when you go to the car wash and pay for a car wash.
So the point of Princess Fiona vs. Donkey is to clarify in your mind, what your relationship is.
(1) A sexual relationship in which you’re all in.
(2) A non-sexual relationship in which you’re not assuming any special services.
I just clear it up ahead of time what it is going to be. There’s no point wasting your entire Saturday helping a girl you’re interested in, only to discover she has no interest in you beyond your labor assistance. If you’re going to end up masturbating no matter what… well you may as well just enjoy Saturday doing what you want to do.